tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post5133411774556265259..comments2024-03-29T12:07:58.432+00:00Comments on Spirit of God!: A Transcript from Life in the Spirit Conference about the Baptism in the Holy SpiritDan Bowenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15661120561123767936noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-37497660733980522222010-08-13T22:49:00.461+00:002010-08-13T22:49:00.461+00:00Genial dispatch and this post helped me alot in my...Genial dispatch and this post helped me alot in my college assignement. Say thank you you as your information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-31676524321626148552007-05-30T12:07:00.000+00:002007-05-30T12:07:00.000+00:00Yes I would agree. I don't think the natural incl...Yes I would agree. I don't think the natural inclination of the church is to passionately pursue AND practice the gifts of the Spirit. Didn't Dr Lloyd-Jones say that church history is like a series of waves rising and falling. The rises are when God graciously moves upon His Church in revival but as soon as that gracious influence of the Spirit stops - we begin to fall.<BR/><BR/>I read Mr Purswell's paper from the SMG website and was disappointed. While I appreciated that their heart is to welcome cessationists into their ranks, the overriding beat is that they won't be motivating and urging people to receive the baptism with the Spirit anymore. It's up to the natural instinct - which is to fall.<BR/><BR/>Dr S BurgessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-51514555215741620472007-05-29T16:39:00.000+00:002007-05-29T16:39:00.000+00:00Thanks for your comment Michael. I appreciate you...Thanks for your comment Michael. I appreciate your concern and leaving a message. I am not criticising the motives of those who would use the term "continuationist". Most true believers are sincere I would hope. My problem with the term is the inevitable impact that it has upon the Church. Jesse Phillips on his excellent site spoke of the challenge that it's not enough for leaders to encourage spiritual gifts. They need to model them! <BR/><BR/>Let me quote this point from his newly published paper on the baptism of the Spirit. <BR/><BR/>"The Third Wave position while not at all cessationist concerning the spiritual gifts and even held by a few prominent charismatic leaders (John Wimber) has not shown itself to be quite as prolific as the traditional Pentecostal view in producing churches that are able to maintain a robust pneumatology and a distinctively charismatic experience over a long period of time. The primary reason for this is that the Third Wave position has a cessationist interpretation of Acts".<BR/><BR/>We need to let church history speak for itself and Jesse's research suggests that it is the traditional Pentecostal position that produces churches that consistently seek to honour the Spirit of God.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the continuationist desire to argue for the existence of spiritual gifts. My concern is that churches need little encouragement NOT to practice or seek them. The status quo will be no spiritual gifts in worship. Unless the elders model them, encourage them, pray for people to receive and practice them. <BR/><BR/>That was my concern when I was in SGM and I have yet to be proved otherwise.Dan Bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15661120561123767936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-46859356420463726592007-05-29T15:57:00.000+00:002007-05-29T15:57:00.000+00:00I wonder if you're being a little harsh about the ...I wonder if you're being a little harsh about the term "continuationist". Surely a title is required to classify those who would prefer not to ally themselves with the classical charismatic movement and yet still believe the gifts of the Spirit are for use in the church today. To "Continue" assumes de facto that they will not just be dormant but used in the church surely?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-42006968854112156882007-05-28T20:04:00.000+00:002007-05-28T20:04:00.000+00:00Amen!!Sounds like it was an awesome Question and A...Amen!!<BR/><BR/>Sounds like it was an awesome Question and Answer session!! It is good to see that you are spreading your wings slightly and not focusing solely on Dr Ern Baxter. While there is nothing wrong with that, there is a great amount of material in the Church stuck on audiotape that deserves to be published!<BR/><BR/>Could we see the entire document at some point? I am interested to see Kendall and Eaton interact. A truly historic ocasion if they never have done so before!!<BR/><BR/>Dr S A J BurgessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30858116.post-81807826989421295832007-05-28T19:27:00.000+00:002007-05-28T19:27:00.000+00:00Well I would say that it is a sealing of sonship -...<I>Well I would say that it is a sealing of sonship - it is an empowering for service that comes by being sealed for sonship - it is liberty and freedom. It is calling God, "Abba! Father!". It is lubrication - flow and ease in ministering for the Lord.</I><BR/><BR/>Truly awesome stuff!Peter Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14498529242569940604noreply@blogger.com